Компания Giant представила новый горный велосипед Stance с увеличенным ходом подвески и более агрессивной геометрией.
Здесь используется всё та же система подвески Flexpoint, но ход теперь увеличили со 120 до 125мм. Ход вилки на велосипедах в сборе тоже стал больше – со 130 до 140мм.
Цены на новые велосипеды начинаются от 1999 фунтов стерлингов за модель Stance 2, которая продаётся как с 29-, так и с 27,5-дюмовыми колёсами, а байк Stance 1 29 обойдётся вам в 2399 фунтов.
Цены для разных регионов мира производитель пока не уточнял.
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Увеличенный ход подвески
В целом, линейка Stance – бюджетные двухподвесы от Giant. Более дорогие аппараты – это уже модели Trance.
Новые рамы Stance изготовлены из фирменного алюминиевого сплава Giant ALUXX – по словам производителя, он обеспечивает раме высокую жёсткость и надёжность при малом весе.
Как мы уже говорили, ход подвески новых рам стал на 5мм больше и теперь составляет 125мм. Здесь по-прежнему используется система подвески Giant FlexPoint с гибкими перьями.
Как правило, подобные системы можно увидеть на короткоходных велосипедах для кросс-кантри, поскольку рама, благодаря отсутствию дополнительных шарниров, получается лёгкой, а также более отзывчивой в силу большей жёсткости.
Кроме того, по словам производителя, такая система позволяет реже обслуживать подвеску, а работать она должна так же мягко и гладко, как системы с многочисленными линками.
Теперь на велосипедах Stance – задние дропауты для сквозной колёсной оси. Таким образом, сюда можно поставить самые современные колёса, если вы захотите поменять стоковые.
А новые порты для внутренней прокладки кабелей здесь такие же, как на рамах с системой подвески Maestro – например, на Giant Reign. Входной порт расположен на нижней трубе рамы.
Под верхней трубой теперь есть крепления, на которые можно подвесить различные аксессуары, к примеру, запасную камеру. На правом нижнем пере теперь – новая защитная накладка, которая должна сводить шум болтающейся цепи к минимуму.
Кстати, на всех моделях из линейки Stance стоят вилки собственного производства под названием Crest 34 SL RCL с 34-миллиметровыми «ногами». По словам производителя, внутри их – особые негативные пружины для лучшей отработки мелких неровностей.
На вилке также есть специальное крепление для крыла, которое может пригодиться, если вы катаетесь в мокрую погоду.
Регулируемый подседельный штырь на этих моделях – также собственного производства Giant, это модель Contact Switch AT. Из его особенностей можно выделить регулировку хода в пределах 30мм без использования инструментов, а также поворотный элемент в нижней части, куда входит тросик – его можно развернуть на 180 градусов, чтобы этот тросик меньше изгибался.
Длиннее и более острые углы – значит, лучше?
Геометрию рамы Stance поменяли довольно значительно – так, угол рулевой трубы на обеих рамах (для 29- и 27,5-дюймовых колёс) стал на 2 градуса меньше и теперь составляет 65,5 градуса.
Более острый угол рулевой должен добавить велосипеду стабильности, особенно на крутых спусках, поскольку переднее колесо в этом случае оказывается дальше от центра байка.
Что же касается эффективной длины переднего треугольника («рич»), то её увеличили на 16мм – сейчас на 29-дюймовом велосипеде размера L она равна 470мм. Длина нижних перьев теперь – 440мм, что на 2 миллиметра больше, чем раньше.
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Giant Stance 2
- Вилка: Giant Crest 34 SL RCL, 140mm
- Амортизатор: Suntour Raidon R
- Трансмиссия: Shimano Cues U6000
- Тормоза: Shimano BR-MT200
- Колеса: Giant AM alloy
- Покрышки: Maxxis Minion DHF EXO 2.5 (f), Maxxis Dissector EXO 2.4 (r)
- Цена: £1,999
Giant Stance 1
- Вилка: Giant Crest 34 SL RCL, 140mm
- Амортизатор: Suntour Raidon R
- Трансмиссия: SRAM SX Eagle
- Тормоза: Shimano BR-MT420
- Колеса: Giant AM alloy
- Покрышки: Maxxis Minion DHF EXO 2.5 (f), Maxxis Dissector EXO 2.4 (r)
- Цена: £2,399
Велосипеды Giant
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#1
Hey Everyone, just wanted to spit this out there for the info. I picked up a 2021 Giant Fathom with the “new” Crest 34 fork. Got out for one ride and noticed a knocking sound coming from the front end. Checked the thru axle, caliper mounting, stem etc. all was good. I narrowed it down to the fork during actuation, no matter what the setting. Brought it back to the bike shop where I bought it. They contacted Giant and they are going to warranty it. Giant will send a new set of forks to the the shop for replacement, as soon as they’re off backorder that is! Just an FYI for you fellow offroadies!
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“Who can it be knockin’ in my fork?” So the knocking is back on my “new” warrantied forks! Noticed it right around Thanksgiving weekend. I contacted the bike shop and gave him the lowdown. He is going to submit another warranty request. Haven’t heard anything as of yet, but I figured I would follow up with this new info.
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I have the same fork with the same issue. Let you how I make out. Bummer tho, it performs pretty well.
There‘s either a fair number of these with the problem or a very vocal minority according to the internet.
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Giant is making their own forks now? Why don’t they just stick to their core competencies and leave the major components to the pros. What little money they saved per fork is negated by the warranty replacements I’m sure plus all the logistics involved for them and the downtime for the customers. Yeah I get it, they make millions of bikes a year and if they can save 50 cents or a dollar on a bike then that translates to millions of dollars in profits each year but you also have to put a value on people’s time, by that I mean the time customers has to waste taking it to their bike shop, the time the shop has to deal with the problem, and the downtime of the bike to the customer. They also have to consider their brand reputation.
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I have the same bike and fork, but I haven’t noticed any knocking. Will keep an ear out for it though.
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A shop tech glanced at mine and said it looked like a rebadged Suntour, but who knows. As mentioned, it works pretty well. Hopefully this doesn’t turn into a debacle.
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A shop tech glanced and mine and said it looked like a rebadged Suntour, but who knows. As mentioned, it works pretty well. Hopefully this doesn’t turn into a debacle.
Hmm… Suntour has that funky quick connect/disconnect axle. I rode an Aion for a while and it was great, no clicking or knocking at all.
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Alright…alright…alright. The bike shop just contacted me today. They just got a brand new set of warranty forks for me from Giant I got to bring the bike down so they can swap it out. Hoping 2nd time is the charm! Extremedave how did you make out?
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Giant is making their own forks now? Why don’t they just stick to their core competencies and leave the major components to the pros. What little money they saved per fork is negated by the warranty replacements I’m sure plus all the logistics involved for them and the downtime for the customers. Yeah I get it, they make millions of bikes a year and if they can save 50 cents or a dollar on a bike then that translates to millions of dollars in profits each year but you also have to put a value on people’s time, by that I mean the time customers has to waste taking it to their bike shop, the time the shop has to deal with the problem, and the downtime of the bike to the customer. They also have to consider their brand reputation.
You bring up some excellent points. I’ve been lucky enough to deal with this problem both times during ski season, so I’m not pedaling much!
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Still waiting on word from Giant. I bought the bike used; a local shop is making a case for me but apparently Giant is kinda stiff about secondhand stuff. We shall see, glad yours is resolved!
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Still waiting on word from Giant. I bought the bike used; a local shop is making a case for me but apparently Giant is kinda stiff about secondhand stuff. We shall see, glad yours is resolved!
Gotcha. Well I hope you can get hooked up.
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Gotcha. Well I hope you can get hooked up.
Thx! Hope yours is trouble free.
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OMG do not google Crest 34 fork…stupid internets. I do really wish there was a great fork between the RockShox Judy SL $200 and the next step at 500+
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Bump. My fork has been making the same knocking and clicking. I’m just gonna upgrade it.
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Bump. My fork has been making the same knocking and clicking. I’m just gonna upgrade it.
I got my bike back with the 3rd set of forks, but haven’t been out yet. I’m hoping no more problems. What forks are you going to upgrade to?
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I got my bike back with the 3rd set of forks, but haven’t been out yet. I’m hoping no more problems. What forks are you going to upgrade to?
Fox Performance 34
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Nice. I’ve heard the Marzocchi Bomber 2 are pretty hot. Now Fox owns them, so all the internals are Fox Float with 34mm. I have no experience with either one, but If mine don’t work out I may have to go the same route as you. Thanks for the fork suggestion. Later.
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Well….well…well. Third time is NOT the charm! Just got out for the first time with the thrice warrantied Crest forks and the click….click..click… knock…knock….knockity…click is back! Plus I noticed today that the lockout isn’t working at all. Yahoo! Poor Paul at Pop’s is going to be so happy to hear from me. Just in time for the season to start. Is there a lemon law for forks? Hee hee.
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Hey, gotta quick question about the 34’s you picked up. They were for 27.5 plus / 29er, so are they wider than the stock fork or is anything different from a non-plus fork? I hope I’m not being a ding dong, but now I might have to consider what’s behind door 3.
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Hey, gotta quick question about the 34’s you picked up. They were for 27.5 plus / 29er, so are they wider than the stock fork or is anything different from a non-plus fork? I hope I’m not being a ding dong, but now I might have to consider what’s behind door 3.
Nope, same width. If you look on the stock Crest fork, you’ll actually see a sticker that says 29″ lol. The Fathom in stock form can run 29ers if you want
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В этом сезоне случилась, буквально, эпидемия, мор, чума и зараза с вилками Giant Crest 34. За летний сезон более десятка вилок. А буквально за последнюю неделю аж 5 штук! Сама по себе вилка ни чем не примечательная, очередной бюджетный клон Сантура. Похоже, на том же заводе и делается. Типичная конструкция, справа завальцованный одноразовый картридж, блокировка/отскок. Слева воздушная пружина SoloAir с перепускным каналом. Проблема же заключалась в том, что совершенно новые вилки, с пробегом в 100км, теряли ход. То есть типичный стакдаун, когда воздух уходит в негативную камеры. Первая разборка вилки повергла в недоумение. Резиновое х-образное кольцо, которое расположено на поршне, выглядело так, словно его грызли мыши! Причиной повреждений оказался перепускной канал, между негативной и позитивной камерой. Канал имел острые края, которые повреждали резинку. Особо интересно было то, что повреждения расположены по всему периметру резинки! Интересное наблюдение! Похоже, что при работе, таинственные силы крутят резинку относительно поршня. Очевидное-невероятное! Канал находится на глубине 80мм от края, добраться до него и зашлифовать острые кромки не представляется возможным. Решил просто переделать конструкцию пружины. Поршень поднять выше перепускного канала, а для наполнения негативной камеры использовать перепускной клапан на самом поршне. По сути, тот же солоэир, но в другом варианте.
That’s right folks – the Crest is a brand new suspension fork that has just been launched by the world’s largest bicycle manufacturer. Nope, we can’t say we were expecting to see a suspension product from Giant either! But given the brand’s growing component catalogue, which includes complete wheels, dropper posts and carbon handlebars, perhaps it shouldn’t come as too much of a surprise to see forks joining that list too.
So The Giant Crest 34 Fork – What’s The Dealio?
Designed as an entry-to-mid-level trail suspension fork (think Suntour rather than high-end Fox and RockShox), the Crest 34 has been developed, engineered and manufactured entirely in-house. And digging through the details, it’s apparent that this ain’t no budget el-cheapo fork with a Giant sticker slapped on. Far from it in fact.
Built with a robust-looking chassis with 34mm upper tubes, the Crest gets a Boost QR15 thru-axle and one-piece magnesium lowers. The lowers themselves are made using a process called ‘Thixmolding’, which Giant states is a “closely temperature-controlled casting process to produce components that are exceptionally strong, while remaining more lightweight than similar components made by traditional casting“. So there you go.
Oh, and the fork arch has a neat little hollow tube through it, and we really want to poke our fingers into it like a Chinese Finger Trap. Maybe this little tunnel could be useful for storing a tubeless tyre plug? Or maybe a wee trail-sausage for mid-ride snacks? Either way, it’s a neat way of differentiating Giant’s new fork from every other suspension fork on the market.
It’s Got 100-120mm Of Travel & A Dual Air Spring
The Crest 34 will be made in both 27.5in and 29in sizes. Travel is fixed (i.e. non-adjustable), and is listed at 120mm for the 27.5in fork, and 100mm for the 29in fork. That means it’s really designed for hardtails and short-travel full suspension bikes. Well, unless Giant brings out longer travel versions in the future.
It’s air-sprung, and mirroring other modern suspension forks from Fox and RockShox, it uses a dual-air system with a positive and a self-equalising negative chamber. Air volume can also be adjusted with thread-in plastic tokens, allowing you to control how much ramp there is towards the end of the travel.
What Adjustments You Got?
As well as being able to adjust air pressure and air volume, the Giant Crest features adjustable rebound damping down the bottom, and a crown-mounted compression adjuster up the top. The compression dial has five settings, ranging from fully open to a full lockout. Giant is also making a remote version that comes with a 2-position handlebar remote for locking and unlocking the fork.
Otherwise there isn’t a whole lot of information about the damper arrangement itself. All that’s listed in the specs is ‘Giant-exclusive tune’, so it isn’t entirely clear whether this is an open or closed damper system.
Can I Buy One?
Not on its own you can’t. For the time being, there are no plans to sell the Crest 34 fork aftermarket, since it’s destined for OEM spec on complete Giant mountain bikes. According to Giant Australia, we’ll first see the Crest 34 on the 2020 Giant Fathom 29 2. That bike currently specs a Suntour fork, but later in the year we’ll see that switch to the Crest 34.
2020 Giant Crest 34 Fork Specs
- New OEM suspension fork
- 27.5in & 29in wheelsize options
- Travel: 120mm (27.5in), 100mm (29in)
- Ramp-adjustable twin air spring system with volume spacers
- Adjustable rebound and compression damping
- Also available with a remote lockout
- 34mm alloy stanchions
- Thixmolded magnesium one-piece lowers
- Tapered steerer tube
- Offset: 44mm (27.5in), 51mm (29in)
- Boost 110x15mm thru-axle dropouts
- Max tyre clearance: 27.5×2.6in, 29×2.4in
- Claimed weight: 1870g (27.5in), 1970g (29in)
What’s Next From Giant Then?
Firstly it’s worth having a watch of the launch video below, which Giant has put together for the new Crest 34 fork. We haven’t posted the video to show off the fork itself, but rather for you to get some insight into the manufacturing power that Giant has invested into with its new fork. Sure it’s a marketing video with plenty of smoke and mirrors, but you can still appreciate there’s been some heavy R&D going on for Giant to build its own suspension fork in-house.
Given just how much investment and manufacturing power Giant has poured into producing this new Crest fork, we’d hazard a guess that other suspension products are likely to follow. Maybe we’ll see longer travel versions? A Crest 36 perhaps? Or maybe Giant is working on a rear shock for its entry-level full suspension bikes?
All we can do is speculate for now, but it isn’t hard to see a future where the Taiwanese brand will manufacture the vast majority of components on its own bikes, rather than relying on other brands to supply them. Of course Giant’s US rivals, Cannondale, Specialized & Trek, have been pushing the design envelope with own unique suspension products and brand-exclusive relationships for many years now, so it would make sense to see Giant step up in that arena to create something unique.
Enough of our conjecture though, what do you folks think of this new suspension fork from Giant? Is it just another fork, or something more? Let us know your thoughts in the comments below!
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